steve, why less won't be more. steve this is fascinating. tell me exactly what went down. >> i did the interview with speaker boehner on friday over in the capitol and one of the first things that he told me in the meeting. i said what was the most interesting thing and shocking thing about the five weeks of negotiations in the oval office with president obama? and he said at one point the president turned to him and said you know, john, we don't have a spending problem in this country. and the speaker told me he said his jaw sort of dropped when the president said that. my jaw dropped when the speaker told me that story. and, you know, it gets to the whole issue of why there was so little progress in the negotiations. the first stage of recovery if you are an addict s to admit you have got a problem. if the president doesn't even acknowledge there is a spending problem you have real issues in terms of moving forward. when says that the healthcare spending is the problem, what the speaker said to him s of course, mr. president, we have a hea